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NaamKyun.com Discussion Forum • View topic - ping choy

ping choy

"Old" Hung Kyun and "New" (Wong Feihung) Hung Kyun

Postby vtml » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:47 am

Kudos to you Subitai
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Postby laukarfei » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:57 am

i could really careless about you actually, i just responded in kind, if you dont like the way people respond to you, then dont initiate that type of response.

you also obviously have issues considering you feel you have to explain yourself and your history as a "fighter", i really dont feel i have anything to proove

i dont know what message board training your talking about, if it was from here id be getting my ass kicked everyday lol. youve knocked people out on the street well so have i lol, but its not something id brag about, i wish it never went there

oh and sorry for being 1 of 1000000000 people to use a pseudonym your much superior to me, and your still the ultimate kung fu fighter!!
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Postby Mig » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:30 am

Laokafei, whatever this name means. You sound like a kid and if you are not a kd then you are quite a whining baby. The posting was about pingchoy or reverse punch both in hung ka or in any other TMA. As you get older you realize that life in laland is much different than the real life just like in sparring and in real fights. Let's remain on the subject about pingchoy and learn from others, would ya.

Thanks,

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Postby Subitai » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:08 am

Ok to Mig, at least I tried to give you some useful information about Ping Choi.

I'm gonna speak my mind.....since knowing PM's style, he's gonna lock the thread any post now. Wait and see.

Laukarfei,

I only had to explain cause your Calling me out!!!!! When you say you watched a vid of me getting my ass handed to me. (My only loss btw, and to the champion)

= Without knowing who you are... making snap judgments on me.
Yeah, I get to say sh!t right back.

I wanna see you fight a guy who feels double your size and has 100lbs on you.

By the way, can you show us some of your fighting prowess?

You list different types of gloves you own and yet don't say what you qualifications are to use them.

That's like saying that because I own a car, by default I am also a skilled race car driver.


Facts remains, I tried to help MIG and I offered some advice about protection.

A proper Match glove punch has a very SOLIDLY taped and compacted fist inside it. If you want to believe that it has less knockout power than a regular fist....I can't agree with you. As you 1st said to me..."your Uninformed"
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Postby vaulander » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:28 am

Well, as a newbie Hung Gar practitioner I can't say much. As someone who has done various martial arts for a little over twenty years, here are my findings:
I have a rather heavy bag hanging in my garage, and it's not filled with feathers and cotton. Before I started training with the boys I used plain bicycle gloves, simply because the bag has a lot in common with sandpaper and I didn't want to skin my knuckles off. Then I got 8oz fingerless grappling gloves, and was able to really hammer the bag far more than 'gloveless' without any aching, and that was hitting straight on, proper tight fist.
Here is my advice, and you can do what you want with it: Hit the bag solid without gloves, to feel the difference. I advice you to work up the power, don't just blast into it first go, if your structure is wrong you WILL hurt yourself. Turn up the volume from light to hard. Once you feel the correct structure and body movement, then you can put on some gloves and drill and whatnot. I tell the boys to 'bury the fist' that is, aim fist deep in the target. Too far away and you either tap or over extend your structure, leaning, locking the arm, in short you aren't in the 'zone'. Too close and it turns more into a high speed push or shove.
Also, you can put your fist to the wall, whatever knuckles you strike with and lean on it. Adjust your arm, the angle of the elbow etc until you can hold it without burning muscle, that is, where your structure supports it.
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As for the glove vs no-glove, here is an interesting article about how sports fighting has changed over the years:
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/evolution.html

Hope this helps.
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Postby laukarfei » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:20 pm

heh, to mig, listen im sorry to derail your thread, but you are definately not new to a discussion forum my friend and i havent posted this much in some time.

and subitai, im sure posting on this forum has conditioned you to a good handful of people who probably dont have the experience you do, but let me be clear your experience save chinese martial arts is NOT exceptional and is your experience and is not fact or hard truth in any way or form.

im much younger then probably all of you, and my generation is not only versed in new forms of fighting but many people like me are working very hard to reinvent what is already far different from the "mma" that you competed in.

i edited this because i wasnt happy with what i posted, im getting tired of being disrespectful its weighing on me because im better then this, i dont want to argue but in a nutshell i said you cant fight with me, and your wrong about the glove issue
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Postby Subitai » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:28 pm

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Postby vaulander » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:28 pm

Here's to cheating, stealing, fighting, and drinking.
If you cheat, may you cheat death.
If you steal, may you steal a woman's heart.
If you fight, may you fight for a brother.
And if you drink, may you drink with me.
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Postby TOET » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:36 am

yes it seems as if we here are a faimly, nobody fights or loves harder than brothers and sisters ( .
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Postby vaulander » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:39 am

Well said. The rule of brothers and/or sisters is something like this: "Nobody messes with my bro/sis except for me."
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Postby Tid Sin » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:02 pm

G'nite, John Boy...
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