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Interpretation of Frank Yee's Ging article

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Interpretation of Frank Yee's Ging article

Postby Asmo » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:10 pm

Hello Everyone,

I was reading Frank Yee's excellent article "The Method of Hung Ga's Ging" in the Hung Gar special of Kung Fu Tai Chi Magazine. Noticing patterns interlocking I made the following diagram/flow chart to ease interpreting the article and how the different gings relate to each other to easy the study of each particular ging.

Note that normally in our training we don't classify much beyond the animals/elements and sap yi kiu sao.

You might notice some liberal interpretation (cultural expressions) and the order might be switched around here and there (like the directions, and type of ging) and maybe some other points you notice.

What are your thoughts? Comments? Other info you want to add?

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Postby mok » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:20 pm

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Postby PM » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:55 pm

hello Asmo,

nice chart, thank you for your effort.

the terms used in Yee sifu's article (which i really enjoyed, especially the practical applications), are imho not very common in common Hung Kyun, at least compared to what i have heard, learned, or read in the old texts. some of the terms remind me more taijiquan (tai gik kyun) classics than Hung Kyun "classics" (ok, if we have any), but it is matter of different point of view of different branch. Yee sifu's article makes perfect sense and i hope there will be more articles like this in the future, as he is doing extensive research in China. some of the ther articles he wrote (on 12 bridges, emotions, no shadow kick) are one of the best material out there.

ok, my view in Hung Kyun ging lik is different, more based on yam/yeung principles plus the bridges.

basically:

coordinated, concentrated power/dead strength (ging lik/sei lik), external/internal (ngoi lik, noi lik)

swallow, spit, lift, sink (tan tou fou cham)

hard/soft power (gong ging/yau ging)

12 bridges - 12 ways of using power - ok we have hard and soft already, so pressing power (bik), straight (jik), dividing (dan), fixing (ding), short (inch, chyun), lifting (tai)... etc.

...

btw., i really recommend the book of Yang Jwing-Ming shifu, devoted to detailed explanation of power in taijiquan (taai gik kyun), basically all that is there can be translated into Hung Kyun, just using different words. sure thing that Hung kyun has its onw flavour, as taijiquan has. worth buying, worth reading.

looking forward to see more stuff like this from your side

all the best
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Postby Asmo » Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:57 am

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Postby PM » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:11 am

hello Asmo,

i think those articles are not online anywhere. it would be great if somebody of the Yees joins the forum and posts those articles, as they are really worth reading. i also like Yee sifu's instructional videotapes (unfortunately i have not been able to find his "tiger and crane" tape - does anyody has it?)

if nobody postas the articles, i will scan them and upload them here

i have seen the articles you have mentioned

Tai Chi Theory and Martial Power: Advanced Yang Style 2nd ed is the book. anyway, i like all that Yang shifu wrote, one of the few books on CMA out there
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Postby TenTigers » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:54 pm

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