Bridge Hand Stress?

[crazedjustice888]

When performing the bridge hand in the sets and for training purposes, I always would tense my forearms and fingers. I was told this is the proper way to do it. However, when I took a Qi-Gong seminar under Wong Kiew Kit, he said that you should not add stress to the movement because it blocks chi flow.

So am I doing this wrong....or what? I don't want to keep doing something if it is wrong, and I have tried searching on the net, but I can't seem to find an answer to this.

Any and all help is appreciated as always.

[shuen]

my opinion (and limited knowledge .. and sorry for my english):

you do NOT stress DURING the movement but stress at the very and, so when the "impact" comes (or would be). With the loosen muscles during the movement you let the chi flow into your bridge, with the stress at the end you "close the way out", so you got all of the chi in your forearm (or anywherer you need) at the time of the (hard) contact.

Stressing after the end of movement untill you do not make your next move ("posture") is (only) a tool for muscles training, but not a must have (we do it anyway)

that is the way my sifu told me, thats the way i practice.

edit: i just saw your from Heidelberg (i´m from Karlsruhe), where do you practice?

[Subitai]

A man walks into a doctors office and says...

"Doc, it hurts when i do this"

The doctor says...

"Then don't do it anymore"



Lam Tsai Wing Said something to the effect of "If the power is all the way down to your fingers then it is properly throughout the arm" or you have the correct position. That being said, some people still can't do it right.

Shoulders Relaxed, elbows sunk, tendons in your forearm and wrist ALIVE and ready to respond.

At this Point I have met many other Hung Gar players...and the word Alive can be interpreted in different ways but Suffice to say that you shouldn't follow Wong Kiew Kit to the Letter.

"O"

[markt]

I think this takes time to get right.. it is not *overly* tense.. like you should not be straining and grunting ... basically you are not trying too hard just to be tense.
But - your bridge should not be soft to touch. The energy is going outward.
I am not sure of the best way to put it into words even - I think that you have to feel it from someone who can do it.
Skills like 'deng' come from this, which you can learn how to apply with intermediate da sam sing exercises.. If you don't learn how to do this correctly, your bridge will not work. You will just be trying to smash with your bone and not controlling.

[crazedjustice888]

Thank you for all of the words of wisdom.

Shuen: I trained under Andreas Garski until I moved to Lakeland FL. Now I train under Su Laing, but I just started, but as SOON as I started, I got rearended, so now I can't go for two weeks....ugh....

THANK YOU ALL OF YOU!! I will try to see what you mean markt and I will ask my sifu as soon as possible.

Subitai: Do you mean that if you can feel the energy in your fingers then you are most likely doing it right? If that is what you are saying, then I feel lots of energy in my fingers. Also, from what I have been told by my friends, my forearms are as hard as a rock....however...if I can do it even better...MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL

[Subitai]

[crazedjustice888]

[Biao]

What do you think of this then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPUXIRpv2h0

It seems to me that he uses pretty much tension, especially in his shoulders? Or am I wrong?

And what is that exercise good for? For conditioning purposes? Or as a preparation for the Iron Wire Form? Or both?

Looking forward to your replies

Biao

[PM]

i have met Ng sifu on several occassions and all i can say is: top level gungfu, scientific system, results, no bullshit. Ng sifu is made of steel, very powerful - anything he shows or says, i watch and listen carefully.

as for the video - excellent explanation of some of the 12 bridges of tit sin kyun. 5 stars of 5.

Frank (Ng sifu's disciple) will add more i guess.

[Frank Bolte]

[Biao]

[Biao]

[Frank Bolte]