Loose the finger?

[crazedjustice888]

About using the Kiu Sau in actual combat, I would have to say not me, unless my finger strength skyrockets and I use it as a one finger stab. Thats the only possible use I see for it. I mean, if someone else wants to chime in, then by all means.

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ok, another interesting context, in this case Buddhist:

in Southern Siulam kyun, "one finger bridge hand" is also called "one finger Zen" (yat ji sim; Zen = Chan in Mandarin = Sim in Cantonese). those who have read Wong Kiew Kit sifu's books on Siulam gungfu certanly know the exercise called "one finger shooting Zen" (yat ji tou sim).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffZaOx1KBoI[/youtube]

another interesting vid: monk Haideng performing "one finger Zen"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnxt6hDA3E8[/youtube]

the Zen buddhism context reminds me following koan from Mumonkan (Wumenguan):

Whenever Gutei Osho was asked about Chan, he simply raised his finger. [/youtube]Once a visitor asked Gutei's boy attendant, "What does your master teach?". The boy too raised his finger. Hearing of this, Gutei cut off the boy's finger with a knife. The boy, screaming in pain, began to run away. Gutei called him, and when he turned around, Gutei raised his finger. The boy suddenly became enlightened.

When Gutei was about to pass away, he said to his assembled monks, "I obtained one-finger Zen from Tenryu and used it all my life but stil did not exhaust it." When he had finished saying this, he entered into eternal Nirvana.

(Katsiku Sekida, Two Zen Classics. The Gateless Gate and The Blue Cliff Records, Shambala, london 2005, p. 34)

Gutei = Juzhi
Tenryu = Tianlong

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