Eight Step Hung Kuen

[Fan Kwoen]

Some other version of Hung Kuen:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTM0ODIzNDg=.html

[Daifong]

Was that another version of Hung Kyun, or, was it "another style, using the Hung Kyun name"?

[Urs]

As far as I understood the old man in the report, it's another Style called 8 Step Hong Quan from Henan Province in Northern China.

[Daifong]

Well, it is said that Hua (华), Pao (炮), Fa (花), Cha (查) & Hung (红) are supposed to be the five main Northern Shaolin schools (北少林拳).

Except for the fact that in this school, "Hung" does not mean "Red", but is actually just the same as ours (洪). Perhaps they stem from pro-Ming Dynasty patriots as well?

[Daifong]

Thanks Urs, you're right, I guess I just have to do some things myself:

据了解，“云和八步洪拳”是我省传统武术套路中的稀有拳种之一，始于辛亥革命时期，它集众家拳术之长，风格独特自成体系。

It is understood that, "Cloud and Eight Step Hung Fist" is the province of traditional Wushu is one of the rare boxing, began in the 1911 Revolution, it's a long collection of many boxing style unique self-contained.

Ok, so it would seem we may safely deduce that this is not "the Missing Holy Grail of Hung Hei Gun" here, lol...

[Chris H]

[Daifong]

Last time that someone came on to this forum claiming lineage to Hung Hei Gun, it turned out that he also played a version of the Tit Sin Kyun which, quite distinctly, had its origins in Sunnyvale, California.

Rest assured that no one on this clip is claiming such, it's just that, in China, for somebody to state that he practices "Hung Kyun", seems to me about as definitive as an antique gun collector telling you that he has "a replica of a U.S. Civil War muzzle-loader", or even, "a muzzle-loader, inspired by those used in the U.S. Civil War". The first is non-specific, the second, does not even have to be authentic.

Such "Cultural appreciation", or "artistic license", are all well and good, and most likely honest, on the face of it. However, problems occur when such fabricated information gets mixed in with legitimate historic fact, and then a mess potentially ensues for the martial arts researcher, simply because proper distinction had not been made.

Not to suggest implicit fraud, by mere use of the name.

[Fan Kwoen]

[PM]

Red-White-Blue Flag Hung Kyun? this is the real, secret one, you got it ALL mixed up ha ha

[Daifong]