Iron Thread?

[crazedjustice888]

Everyone knows what the Iron Thread set is. It is considered the top form of our style and the benefits that come with it are supposed to be absolutely astonishing. What I am wondering is, do any of the members here that know the form actually feel the benefits of it? If you do could you please explain what they are? I read in a book from Kung Fu Library on Lam Sai Wings Iron Thread book that it makes the user 9 times stronger and cures illness. Is this true?

I apologize if I sound skeptical, I assure you I am not, I just wonder if the effects that were gained in yesteryear are still attainable today.

[mike_l]

Personally I feel energized after doing the form. I also feel like I'm more rooted in my stances. I've only been practicing the form for about 5 months now though.

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O: no problem bro, i hope you know what i mean. i am talking about the internal part of the set not about sequence. good tsk does not have necessarily to be same as ours as for movements, sounds, etc., but there certain principles that should be very similar or almost the same. i have some very cool tsk sets, quite different from us, and it was great, i have seen many almost the same as ours (and even within our family), and not good at all, and many who just learned it by seeing it couple of times, or even from a LSWs book. that is a fact. same goes for other sets - many of them are cool, some techniques or parts of them i even like more than the way i do, i have no problem to give credit for that.

as for tsk, the HK trip before my last trip i spent almost solely on tsk, and have trained intensiely it under as many ppl as possible as i wanted to see their point of view, including my sigung. my tsk is not necessarily number 1, but we European are not that politically correct to say: hey, everybody does it correctly, so yes, i believe i have the goods that many do not. if i knew about somebody else who has it, i would learn from him (and i still wish to meet many masters and discuss with them the set). things like baat gwa gwan and tsk are life long study and practice, and as a special, advanced material, it is rarely seen (or seen to be done correctly).

btw. i have did not taught tsk to anybody yet and do not plan so for some time, as i feel i need to work MUCH more on it. i practice it for 5 years only, so i am still a tsk beginner, do not take my words for granted. as for sap ying kyun, i already feel very comfortbale with it, doing the dragon part regularly for more than 10 years.

markt: exactly, there is a lot of from tsk in the previous set, especially first half of fhsyk.

all: tsk is cool, but pain in the ass as well. if you practice it at least twice a day, for very long period of time, cool, if not, almost useless. that is a catch of the "special skills", including the internal ones.

one more thing. i have noticed that the tsk is a perfectly complimentary to stance training, jaat ma and exercise like "golden bridge".

all the best

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[crazedjustice888]

Thanks for the comments everyone. I just have Gung Gee under my belt and when I finish that, I feel stronger in certain areas but also tired as well. I still am working on my stances so that is probably one of the main reasons I feel tired after a low horse stance...

Oh, and I understand that its not magic lol, I do however believe something special is with it as this thread is proving to me. Thanks again for all of the comments.

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[mike_l]