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One or more favourite techniques?

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Postby Harutomo » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:41 pm

There is quiet, so I ask what you prefer? One ultimate technique or more techniques for different situations?

I read this interesting topic from Wong Kiew Kit about one technique that can defeat all: http://wongkk.com/general-2/ultimate-technique.html
It looks very good, one killing punch :twisted:

But very good is one my comrade, he is very strong and can kill with 10 different techniques and you dont know from what side it will strike :)

I dont want resolve what is better, but asking what you like?
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Postby PM » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:54 pm

salve, Harumoto :D

you have posted the thread into a "Theory and Principles", so i will try to give a theoretical "yam yeung like" answer, ie. non black and white opinion.

you know that i really like techniques like fo jin cheui, po paai sau or chau da cheui. you can use them pretty well to solve most of the common street fighting scenarios (pushing, puling, punches to the face, football kicks, low kicks, attempts to grapple and wrestle, baseball bat swings etc.), of course with proper footwork and body movement (and pwer and speed and courage - se below), so, why do we practice other stuff, too?

it is said - "learn a lot, practice selected few, and master one". the key to succes is imho in specialisation within the universality. everybody is different, what works for me will not work for you or your classmates; situation may also differ every time - one time you need a cannon, another machine gun is a better choice. you are not going to box with a boxer, or grapple with a grappler, so you have something in your arsenal in all 4 main types of attacks, ie. tek da syut na - "kicks, strikes, throws, submission" and you have to train different situation drills.

from another point of view, and for Hung kyun very important, different techniques are just different tools helping us to drill how to use different types of power properly. techniques are limited (and in no way you will be super proficient in let us say 50% or 25% of all Hung Kyun arsenal), skills (courage, power, speed, distance, footwork, body movement... ) developed by practicing different techniques are universal. there are things i really did not like couple of years ago, and now i wonder how perfectly they work for me.

hope it makes sense a bit
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Postby Harutomo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:22 pm

PM: thank you for quality answer :)
Some times I am very angry when I practise something, but I know that I am worse in other more important thing. So this way I get my gungfu depression :lol: I dont know what is my real favourite techniques, to this time I used in fight only cross, head and karate mae-geri, it is so untechnical, how can I select what to train, what can be my favourite in our system?:lol:
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Postby PM » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:01 pm

favourite technique is not chose by logical reasoning, but by actual experience. train hard everyting you know (gjffk, fhsyk), try, and you will soon find out what works for you and what does not. concentrate more on developing the speed, power, accuracy, timing etc., analyse the biomechancs behind generatign the power, that is it. gungfu is not that complicated, it is not a nuclear physics :-) do not think about martial arts only in sense of friendly sparring bouts - we do not learn how to spar, we learn how to fight. hope this helps
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Postby Harutomo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:30 pm

Ok, I know, I am only exploring. So I will need more score from street fights to know what new now works?:)
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Postby PM » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:46 pm

more guts, power, speed and experience, more gungfu (= trained skill, which takes time and effort)

(sidenote - with all injuries you have, you should pay more attention to make all your damaged body healthier than somebody else :-) ) nore gjffk, more fhsyk, safe training, less fighting
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Postby Harutomo » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:26 pm

Today I feel good, have a resting period, I trained only GJFFK and strengthening and chicaned my schoolmates :lol:
(sidenote - I have no injuries from fighting, only small limitations :wink:)
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