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Taming the tiger with rings

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Taming the tiger with rings

Postby Bob » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:58 pm

I really liked this clip. Is training with rings something you can start on your own or do you need instruction in it ?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6eGIUTXEao[/youtube]
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Postby Tholf » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:44 pm

The rings train you! I don't think you need specific instruction on the rings, just a few tips like the following:

1. Start with only 2 rings and build up as you get used to them. The rings I've seen in MA supply stores usually come in two sizes and assuming your wrists are regular sized, you should have one small one on each wrist, then large ones. The small one is closest to the hand and stops the large ones slipping off.

2. Use the weight of the rings to give you feedback on the solidity of your stances ie if your stances are not stable and rooted, the additional weight of the rings on your arms will increase your awareness of this (particularly as you add more rings). The rings will also give you feedback on the solidity of your core and positioning of your upper body.

3. Take it slow - the impact of the rings on your hands, particularly the area where your wrist meets the rump of your thumb, will hurt quite a bit as you start training with the rings. You may want to reduce the speed of your strikes and other extensions. For me, this is one of the benefits of ring training - it makes me slow down and focus on the form, reducing the tendency to speed up (particularly towards the end of a form). If the pain gets too much, consider getting light wrist weights, as these put padding at the impact point. You will lose the conditioning benefits on the impact point described above, although I don't know how useful that conditioning really is.

4. Don't use them around home unless you have tolerant neighbours. They make a lot of noise.

When I use rings, I usually play GGFFK as it's long and good to play slowly. One round through with rings is sufficient, followed by a round without to correct errors exposed by the rings (see point 2 above). I usually only use the rings on one form per training session, and then maybe one training session a month. I should use them more, but I'm already carrying a gim, 2 dos, butterfly knives, samzi gwan, tiger hooks, daggers, a monkey cudgel, two regular cudgels and a spear to every training session, plus a full combat weight 9 ring horse cutting knife on Sundays, so packing a few extra kilos of metal rings is just too much.

If you are looking for suppliers, I recall TenTigers posting some information either here or on the SFK boards about getting his from industrial parts suppliers rather than MA sources.
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Postby Bob » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:31 pm

Thanks Tholf. Are training medicines / massage recommended for use with rings ?
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Postby markt » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:21 pm

You can wrap them in tape to reduce the noise.
Hockey tape works nicely...
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Postby Qasim » Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:37 pm

Can't view the clip. YouTube is completely down.
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