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Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

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Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby saambou » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:18 am

Great hung kuen, just thought I'd share! :)

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTE5NjAzMTI=.html
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby Fu Hok sin saang » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:08 pm

That's an excellent demonstration, I really enjoyed it, thankyou for posting it
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby daoust » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:44 am

I never taught I will see another school doing this form . This is the first weapon form (the iron fan form) I learn from my master Richard Chan who learn it in Singapore from Soong Siu Por lineage .

Thank you for your video and keep posting , if you find more

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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby ngokfei » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:44 pm

interesting as I've spoken with tang fung lineage exponents and they do not have this as the fan form they teach.
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby daoust » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:46 pm

Yes Soong Siu Por was under Lam Sai Wing , so maybe Lam Jo lineage have the same
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby ngokfei » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:36 am

I've been told that there is no fan form taught in the Lam Family Hung Gar.

There is one taught by the Tang Fung Lineage, I believe called the Iron Leaf Fan and it is not the same as the Beef Bone Fan.

I believe Song Siu Bo (宋晓波) might of had other teachers so perhaps it was picked up there. But more likely it comes from his main student Cheong Wing Kwang (張榮焜) who originally learned Hung Kuen from his father that descends from the Hung Hei Gwoon Lineage. Yee Chi Wai was originally in Canada and there is representatives of this lineage up there so this is possible where he got it from.

Some weapons taught by Yee Chi Wai Hung Gar that are/based choy li fut (ie: SAber, Tiger Fork and Bench).
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby PM » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:05 pm

Yes, that is right Eric - no fan in Lam family Hung Kyun curriculum.
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby ngokfei » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:53 pm

here are a couple of info sources on that lineage:

http://www.martialartsgathering.com/kongchow2.html

http://www.hungkuen-kungfu.com/

http://www.orientaldaily.com.my/index.p ... Itemid=241

here's a partial lineage
7. Song Shao Po (Sung Siu Boh) 宋少波 (Singapore)

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8. Shi Ya Cai 施亞財

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9. Zheng Hui Zhong 鄭輝忠

8. Zhang Rong Kun 張榮焜 (Malaysia)

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9. Huang Qi Kang 黃啟康

8. Song Chao Yuan 宋超元 (Singapore)

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9. Victor Chong

9. Richard Chan

9. Aw Yeow Kwong

9. Wan Dian Wen 萬典文 (Singapore)

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10. Jiang Yan Hong (Kong Yean Hong) 江演洪 (Singapore)
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby saambou » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:59 pm

Thanks for all the information everyone! It's interesting that other Dang Fong branches don't practice this set, I thought it was created by him. Admittedly, I don't know that much about Dang Fong Sifu's branch or curriculum. I practice an unrelated fan form, a much more recent addition to the Hung Kuen curriculum. Just admiring this performers demonstration of technique and spirit! :)
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby daoust » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:52 pm

Master Richard Chan learn from Song Chao Yuan directly . So maybe in Lam Jo lineage there is no fan form but in what I know is that Soong Sui Por learn from Lam Sai Wing , so maybe He did not pass it to Lam Jo . I will double Check with Master Richard Chan if he learn it from another teacher and let you know but what I know is that he learn all is kung fu forms from Soong Chao Yuan
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby Daifong » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:37 pm

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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby Itinerant_Phenomenologist » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:35 pm

You do not really have to look any further than Choy Li Fut which has over 100 single person forms. However, in my humble opinion, that is the flip side of the "vacuum" extreme.
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Re: Excellent ngauh gwat sin!

Postby ngokfei » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:56 pm

Daifong thats so true.

Material is just that and anything that you like you learn. Only thing I don't get is how individuals try to pass it off as coming from somewhere it did not and not give credit to who they learned it from.

I personally have a list of all the individuals I've trained with and what I learned from them.
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