Tiger & Crane Demo

[Jmoon07]

[Franc]

[TenTigers]

[Subitai]

[ironwire]

[shuen]

[ironpalm]

[PM]

ironpalm:

all others: how about changing the subject a bit, we do not want this atmosphere here on this forum i guess? i kind of feel when somebody offers a hand for a friendly handshake, all he gets is a sucker punch. common, let us take step back nad talk about Hung kyun, fu jaau paai ...or beer, chicks, whatever

all the best

[jow yeroc]

I hate that this thread went the way it did, but that real men fight clip was friggin' hilarious!!!
Not that my opinion matters or is necessarily warranted but i say all yous guys should agree to disagree and have a cold beer and hot pho noodles and be brothers.

[PM]

damn, everybody is talking about pho noodles, we do not have stuff like this here, what is it?

[ironpalm]

[PM]

[Mig]

[Subitai]

Wow, this is awkward!!

It seems I mistook IronPALM and confused him with IronWIRE. That's what I get for Posting after an exhausting day of Fishing.

So my post was aimed at IronPALM. I only did so because I thought that we were cool and all of the sudden I thought I disagreed with him. Afterward, I had planned on messaging IRONPALM to say "Hey Man what gives??" I thought we were going to be Homies???


But in fact the Post I reacted to was made by IronWIRE!!! In which case, if I had realised that, I WOULDNOT have said anything cause I don't really have any report with him whatsoever. I would have just been silent. But now that is out, I can be sorry for the mix up but not my Meaning.

IRONWIRE, my intellect is as sharp as my eyes...My opinion stands about your comments. What i said was fair in comparison and right on the mark. But I have to admit, although Calgon comment was a Joke, it was still out of line. I should apologize for that, I got carried away with that.

This all started when Markt said:
"Interesting. Definitely not the tiger-crane form that I know and love."

I think one reason he may have said this is because the form they did was Not even close to main stream popular LSW Hung Gar. Some of the moves were missing or even altered. For example:
They are missing "Lifting Sun and Moon === Black crow dries Wings" !!
Take the Po Pai Sao Section...it's focus is on FJP methods.
Ect ect.

My disagreement stems from how the energies are played, I believe that their focus is more for FJP theories than the normal usage we do in HK.

Just like when PM said: "i have seen many, many different Hung Kyun lineages both in Hong Kong and mainland China. based on my extensive research i think that fu jaau paai's fhsyk is definitely influenced by original hak fu paai. it has more claw lin gung in the sets, different flavour etc"

Our wire set is a better example of Yin / Yang....Not One Slow Pace. It's my own opinion but that makes it a different animal.

IronWire wrote:
"I would look at all the similaraties in The Hung Family rather the miniscule differences that MarkT and others are obsessing about. "

That's a nice polictically correct statement but the miniscule differences can really matter if the are in key places.

[ironwire]

Subitai,
" your intellect is as sharp as your eye" OK

first I agree with most of what every one has said, some briliant.

PM, proved the point by submitting so many versions of the Tiger Crane Form, no two were exactly alike. brilliant

So what would justify an attack in my direction when I all I did was comment on a video. period. no debate, my opinion

Thomas Payne " I may not agree with what you said, but I would die to defend your right to say it". Freedom of speech. Good Old american wisdom.

But you subitai, gave the best example why your argument holds no credibility. at the bottom of all your postings you write

" The Hung Style practiced soley in methods of antiquity would ultimately only be useful versus similar skill sets "

I believe this resolves everyones question,