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Hung Kyun and baak hok/Hap ga/lama paai connections

"Old" Hung Kyun and "New" (Wong Feihung) Hung Kyun

Postby TenTigers » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:32 am

not only does Tang Fung have FHSYK, but I know a Sifu from Guangzhao, whose line is from Luk Ah-Choy,NOT connected with LSW, and he does Dan Gung Fuk Fu,Seurng Gung Fuk Fu, FHSYK. LSW had alarge following,wrote three books, and made many advancements in Hung-Ga, but people are attributing the entire Hung-Ga syllabus to him, which might be an exagerration.
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Postby PM » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:41 am

Bak sing CLF - yes, but it has nothing to do with the association, Tam Saam (CLF practitioner) and Gu Yujeung were friends. Bak sing CLF is not a new system, it is one of the branches of CLF.

gjffk and fhsyk: in the biographies of of Wong Feihung, written by his second generation disciple Jyu Yujai, it is stated that his curriculum had gjffk and fhsyk. what would Lam Saiwing learn from him in the 20 years he spent with him? just ng ying kyun, tit sin kyun and ng log baat gwa gwan?

as far as i know, Mok Gwailaan did not learned from Lam Saiwing, his family or his students. actually, my sigung has sent his daughter to Mok Gwailaan to work on tsk with her and learn some dit da. i have the video with Mok Gwailaan showing parts of fhsyk and single whip.

so, i think that neither gjffk or fhsyk was created by Lam Saiwing. my sigung, nephew of Lam Saiwing, said that gjffk is Siulam kyun, lerned by Luk Achoi from Jisin simsi, and fhsyk comes from various families (Hung, Choi, Fat... ) and was developed by Wong Feihung. he would certainly give credit to his uncle if it was not like this.

as for Leung Daat, it is an interesting reading, but that is it, he even contradicts himself in the books.
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Postby Chunyat » Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:03 am

Some of the best Dang Fong lineage clips I've seen are here.
I like the way they move.

Master Pang Kwai Wing
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l9W_r6ty50[/youtube]

and his student(?)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-LdCBVPwDQ&mode=user&search=[/youtube]

And there's several clips of Dang Fong lineage in Spain:
http://hunggarandorra.com/HUNG%20GAR%20 ... ideos.html
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Postby PM » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:53 am

Gwokseut/Jing Mou discussion here:

http://www.hungkyun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82

back to the subject. i have remembered Chinese text which mentions Hap ga 俠家 as a source of some of the techniques contained in fu hok seung ying

Wong Mankai 黃文啟 writes in his short essay on fhsk that this set (created by Wong Feihung) uses hand techiques of Hung, Mok, Hap and Fat families (ie. Hung Ga, Mok Ga, Hap Ga and Fat Ga).

no other info thought...
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Postby mok » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:24 pm

What is the sound of one-hand clawing?
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Postby mok » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:43 pm

What is the sound of one-hand clawing?
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Postby Cola di Montecorso » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:33 pm

Just trying to be critical....and sharp as a razor.
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