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Sword set

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Sword set

Postby HGT » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:55 am

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Postby Daifong » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:51 am

The last two sets are:

Double-Ended Stick Chaak

Single-Ended Stick Chaak

That was Gam Bok Yin/ Sifu Graham Player, therefore students of GM Chiu Wai (Hung Kyun).

:wink:

Best,

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Re: Sword set

Postby HGT » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:40 am

They are typical forms, but the sword I've never seen.
Does anyone know what's it called?
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Re: Sword set

Postby HGT » Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:28 pm

up!
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Re: Sword set

Postby SAM » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:42 am

There was a long sword set I saw performed by some students of Lam Jo in one of my Sifu's archive videos but it does not resemble this. Perhaps it is an auxiliary set brought in from another style or the set is unique that school's lineage.
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Re: Sword set

Postby Frank Bolte » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:11 am

thats probably the comander sable set which was brought in to the system by Lam Sai Wing
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Re: Sword set

Postby Fan Kwoen » Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:23 pm

Here's a list of sets in Chiu Wai lineage:

http://www.hunggar.pl/index.php?option= ... 61&lang=en
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Re: Sword set

Postby Xiaobian » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:14 pm

Whoever is in charge of that website might consider correcting a few things that look like errors. i.e. "KUNG CHI FOK FU KUEN - taming the tiger by means of the Chi energy"

It's either 伏虎工字拳 or 伏虎工氣拳. Either way, the explanation suggests that the writer mixed up a whole bunch of things.

"air" (aka energy) i.e. Ch'i Kung
ch'i4 = 氣
qi4 = 氣
hei3 = 氣
hei = 氣

"character" (aka letter)
tzu4 = 字
zi4 = 字
zi6 = 字
jih = 字

Also,

"extreme" i.e. T'ai Chi
chi1 = 極
ji1 = 極
gik6 = 極
gihk = 極

“hard work" i.e. Taming the tiger in the pattern of the symbol for "hard work"
kung1 = 工
gong1 = 工
gung1 = 工
gung = 工

”achievement" i.e. Kungfu!
kung1 = 功
gong1 = 功
gung1 = 功
gung = 功
其疾如風,其徐如林,侵略如火,不動如山,難知如陰,動如雷霆
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Re: Sword set

Postby Daifong » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:58 pm

Well, plenty of nice, clear Yale Roman at Gambokyin Sifu's website:

http://www.hkhunggar.com/bridges.htm

I'm sure he would know which sword that is!

:D
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Re: Sword set

Postby Daifong » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:24 pm

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Re: Sword set

Postby HGT » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:47 pm

Very interesting!
many thanks.
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Re: Sword set

Postby tripleHHH » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:21 pm

which leads me to this question...

When was Pek Kwar Do introduced into the Hung Gar system. Which lineages have it and who brought it in?
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Re: Sword set

Postby Yogicmotion » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:29 am

The Pek war darn do was brought in by Sigung Lam Cho. He was very good friends with Grandmaster Ken Tak Hoi. I know most of the teacher who stem from the Lam family teach it. Not sure exactly if other lineages use this set. But for the most those which stem from the Lam family have it.

I know my sifu learned both the sword and the hand set in the way Ken Tak Hoi teaches it. Sigung Lam Cho changed the set set slightly to more of hung kyun flavor. My sifu also make it a little shorter in some places also.

Here is the version I learned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYx_apqZ2HM
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Re: Sword set

Postby Fan Kwoen » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:52 am

Many schools (styles, both Hung Kuen and other) "borrowed" the Saber set from the Pek Kwa style,
as it was famous when Ken Tak Hoi got to Hong Kong
(as well as by seminars in US and Canada by sifu Chan).

I've seen the set in Dragon Style and Choy Lei Fut as well.
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Re: Sword set

Postby tripleHHH » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:53 pm

That explains it. Thanks.Nice video BTW.

Another question, did Lum Jo also create the 2 man sets? (both weapon and hand) As I have seen them in different lineages too.
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