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Tiger and crane techniques

Posted:
Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:41 pm
by Bob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uOIcwbI8oY
There’s a few things about this clip I don’t understand. Quite a few in fact! Can anyone explain the triangle theory he is using? Does anyone else use similar techniques?

Posted:
Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:10 pm
by markt
To be polite, it is different from what I have learned. He does not move like someone who trains HK in my opinion.
From my perspective, some of the things he is doing are not practical at all. Much of what he is demonstrating only works because his student is cooperating.
t / c apps

Posted:
Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:01 pm
by ginosifu
markt thank you for saying it first. the apps he gives are literal and do give room for variation by the attackers part. you a good sifu to explain applications. i would not recommend to take this vid to seriously.
ginosifu

Posted:
Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:47 pm
by PM
to be polite, i do not like it at all

Posted:
Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:55 pm
by laukarfei
why be polite, hes a fake and should be flogged by this guy;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE7pQHJkMvY
Re: Tiger and crane techniques

Posted:
Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:01 pm
by Subitai
Re: Tiger and crane techniques

Posted:
Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:49 am
by ironpalm

Posted:
Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:48 am
by Asmo
Subitai, something like this? Made this for ...
Triangles/3 points whatever I only came upon in Hung Kuen in the way of structure. Theres also 3 distances (& doors) but thats not really triangles.
I can't force myself to look again but I thought he was just doing an explanation for the opening of FHSYK which might explain the lack of body movement.

Posted:
Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:43 pm
by ironpalm

Posted:
Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:25 am
by mok
The guy in the vid is Dennis Decker. He hung out with Pai Lum guys for a while, then claimed he inherited a southern chinese style called "chi lin" which he created in the US. They do a highly kempo-ized interpretation of tiger-crane, by way of kempo-->pai lum--> chi lin.
If I recall correctly, Mr. Decker died last year, or the year before.
/mok.

Posted:
Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:56 am
by Bob
Thank you all for your comments, particularly thanks to Asmo for the drawing. (I like the green showing the sum of the vectors of the force.) I had read the thread on triangles but hadn’t made the connection with his guy. I can’t see what he is trying to say. Any two points make a straight line. Any three points make a triangle. At the same time however he is respected by some. Has anyone heard of meridial triangles before?

Posted:
Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:29 pm
by Asmo
None of that had any connection to what I have been taught or shown before. I didn't really understood him. I just watched once, so I might have missed something though. But even then, it must've rang a bell if it was a commonly used theory in Hung Kuen.

Posted:
Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:51 pm
by ironpalm

Posted:
Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:09 am
by Bob

Posted:
Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:20 am
by ironpalm