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Hung Gar's Saber Form

Posted:
Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:16 am
by ngokfei

Posted:
Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:33 am
by ngokfei
some visuals
Pek Kwa Saber
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpcYKwG9_Q8[/youtube]
Chan Hon chun LIneage
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv-t24PWpw0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_RrPV1_L5A[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQQ8f-eLo0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SpiTI3COLY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUjFIslbIJY[/youtube]

Posted:
Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:14 am
by Asmo

Posted:
Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:36 pm
by JPC
Asmo, If your Mui Faa Dou is the same as this this one:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6iLwLVFfpQ[/youtube]
Then the set is taught in the Lai Ng Sam line.

Posted:
Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:49 pm
by Asmo
Bingo


Posted:
Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:56 pm
by PM
hello,
Lam Saiwing has learned the 'commander's sabre' (daan ji fai dou) in the army. it has southern structure structure, no flowery moves, it is one of my favourite weapons. (sifu just showed me the original beginning of the set, before it as changed to common HK beginning we see today, interesting.)
willow leaf pek gwa sabre (lau yip pek gwa daan dou) is originally northern set, from Gang Dakhoi's daai sing pek gwa mun. it was incorporated to our system by Grandmaster Lam Jou.
spear and sabre are northern weapons - as HK is a southern system, we have our own special weapons, long pole (originally spear anyway) and double knives
i would love to see hang yut daan dou and find out more about the origin.
Willow leaf sabre

Posted:
Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:22 am
by JPC
Re: Willow leaf sabre

Posted:
Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:51 pm
by PM

Posted:
Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:25 pm
by JPC
The profile of the sword you posted is more similar to a traditional Chinese Willow-Leaf Dou than the common 'kung fu broadsword'. The willow-leaf sabre has a much longer history than the 'kung fu broadsword'.
The willow-leaf was a military issue weapon, where 'kung fu broadsword' was a colloquial weapon appearing, probably not much earlier that the beginning of th 1800's.
You don't see people train with military Chinese Dou very often. I have wondered whether this was because: Kung Fu is non-military; because of the influence of movies; or what?

Posted:
Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:31 pm
by HungFamilyFist
I think that the non-military point is a good one. I would also wonder about the price of the two weapons. normal foot soldiers were probably not able to afford the quality longer/heavier military weapons. does that sound like it makes any sense?

Posted:
Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:38 pm
by Qasim

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:03 am
by HungFamilyFist

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:27 am
by JPC

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:21 am
by Asmo

Posted:
Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:23 pm
by JPC