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possibly opening a can of beans here... but lets also think about what he may be considering a "Complete" system may not be what others consider complete.

Johnny McDojo says "My system is complete because i push out good fighters and have forms and a teaching method, therefore my system is complete. I don't waste time with elaborate training methods that take a long time and students forget half the time anyway."

Johnny Hung gar says "no your system is not complete, my system has more refined technique/teaching method and chi gung! it makes a higher skilled fighter."

Johnny mantis says "No, my technique is so refined, we have all that stuff and don't waste time on these big movements you all want to do. we will run circles around you."

Perhaps i'm over simplifying it, perhaps im completely missing the point. But as i see it, this is one mans opinion, and i've never met a master that wasn't supremely confident that his specific lineage or style isn't in some way superior to all the rest. That's why the sifu chose those specific ideas/technique/training regiment. they made sense to him and he thinks it's important to pass on.

so a person who makes a statement like that is fine with me. He just has the guts to say things in a public forum that many might say in private. It may make him a target, but if he's good enough, he can overcome that too.

I wouldn't read that much into it; it's just the way Buck talks. HK martial art scene was, AFAIK is, incredibly competitive. I would be more surprised if he said Hung Kuen isn't the most complete.

bravado and confidence is required to be a sifu isn't it?

hehe.

perhaps your right.

If HG is so complete then why does he teach CLF?

but again CLF is also a MMA style just like HG has become (old origins perhaps but still a MMA)

In the end it mainly has to do with what the Teacher is capable of doing and teaching and not what they say they know or teach.

Actually Kong Sifu teaches some CLF sets, not a whole curriculum or anything. And from my perspective as a student, even our CLF has more of a Hung flavour .

Hungfamilyfist- What you say makes sense. I can definitely feel that perspective.