
Posted:
Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:28 pm
by Daifong
Bodyform is of vital importance to any martial art technique, and
Hung Kyun's come in five varieties:
Jing/ Straight
Wan/ Concave
Pin/ Inclined
Yam/ Chest Down
Yeung/ Chest Up
Without understanding in how to transition between these five, power, agility and 'naturalness' will always continue to elude the would-be practitioner...
Now, I'm not quite certain as to which you are referencing as the "poison hands section of the
Fu Hok"?
Best,
Michael

Posted:
Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:46 am
by PM
to the topic: as for so called "waist" movement... "waist", in Chinese yiu, means something quite different than waist in English, it is a short way to say yiukwa, waist and hips, hip joint. movement at the lumbar spine is a bad idea and results in low back pain and disconnection of the lower and upper parts of the body and power "leaking". that is why it is said: "breath sinks to the cinnanbar field" (hei cham daan tin) - to increase the intra abdominal pressure there, and why it is said "coordinated movement of the hips/waist and stance" (yiu ma hap yat) and "hips and waist, arms and hands, stance and legs, all three are one" (yiu kiu ma, saam hap yat). so, we primarily move at our hips and thoratic spine, not lumbar spine ("waist"). watch any good boxer, golf ar baseball player!

Posted:
Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:19 am
by JPC
Sorry PM really don't understand. How can you move the thoratic spine without moving the lumbar spine? How can you move the pelvis without moving the lumbar spine? What about Bing Geng?
Sorry, I'm not trying to be challenging. I'm just confused.

Posted:
Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:30 am
by PM
not "move", but "move at", i mean turning ( ...maybe my English sucks, sorry for that)
whipping power, bin ging, perfectly fits the concept, no problem with that
have you about old TCMA concept of luk hap, "six harmonies"? "harmony of the hips and shoulders"?

Posted:
Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:38 am
by JPC
Of course, I see what you mean now.
(6 harmonies - yup)