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Am I learning the true Hung Gar?

Posted:
Thu May 06, 2010 4:44 pm
by Preacher

Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 2:44 am
by Daifong
Well Preacher,
We prefer to say "different", rather than "fake" to avoid from disrespecting anybody's well-intentioned efforts...
But...if what you are learning is not at least up to the standard below, IMO you are
definitely being cheated!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUogv1yP ... re=related
Best,
Michael

Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 2:49 am
by markt
Who does your teacher say he learned from ?

Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 6:59 am
by Daifong
On the other hand, this one could be well worth travelling to Brasil/ Espana to study under:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjm1-wcO7-c&NR=1
I'm just trying to make some standards available for you here!


Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 7:28 am
by Daifong
Seriously though...
The first form on this clip is of our own branch
Lau Ga Kyun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb-NpWh- ... re=related
The remainder should give you a nice, rounded view of what
Hung Ga is about (within a reasonable range of variance)...
No matter what the legitimate branch of
Hung Ga Kyun, I think it's fair to say that if the first "
Lau Ga" that somebody learns in their brand-new school doesn't look something like the one the little boy is practicing, they aren't going to grow up to look like the rest of the men on the clip then either, ok?
That being said, your
Sifu may quite actually be very good at what he does!
Best of luck,
Michael

Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 9:34 am
by PM
for the reference - a great example of Lau Ga Kyun, performed by Lam Chun Fai sifu
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9MBcu9OXU[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiXhhDOgz_0[/youtube]
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another point of view at your question: many students taught by teachers who know complete commonly known Hung Kyun curriculum are cheated. bunch of sets form a VHS, DVD or YouTube and here we go.
on the other hand, there are families with very different curiculum, but great Hung Kyun. if you train your horse stance, footwork, hips/waist, short/long bridges (yiu kiu ma), and work on conditioning, application drills a lot, you are in a good school. if not, well, look somewhere else.
welcome to the forum!

Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 10:34 am
by DimitryK
Interesting, there seem to be quite a few differences between schools, but in general also very many similarities. Here is also a part of Lau Ga Kyun from John Leong (the first part of the vid), it was posted on this site earlier in another thread (multemidia I believe).
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjpqasWxjfM[/youtube]

Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 8:52 pm
by Preacher
Well guys, thanks for your replies.
I watched all the videos you posted, and I'm sorry to say that I didn't recognized almost anything. There is a little ressemblance with the Lam Chun Fai video, but it's 95% different.

Posted:
Fri May 07, 2010 9:28 pm
by TenTigers
so, let me ask you; what is the curriculum you are learning? What forms did your Sifu teach you thus far?
As far as supplementary sets go, I also have two beginner sets that I added to ease the student into Moi-Fa Kuen before tackling GJFFK.
One is a four direction gwa-choy/ping'choy set, which I feel helps provide a very crucial element in th estudent's foundation. The other, a bit more complex, which serves a double purpose. One, it is a stepping stone to raise one's proficiency, two, it provides a nice little beginner's form for demos and competition.
Since I teach openly to the masses, I felt it was neccesary.

Posted:
Sat May 08, 2010 12:25 pm
by JPC

Posted:
Sun May 09, 2010 1:37 am
by Preacher

Posted:
Sun May 09, 2010 6:04 am
by TenTigers
Nunchaku?

Posted:
Mon May 10, 2010 1:47 am
by brennanos