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alot of those stories are virually impossible to prove or disprove.

Did Bak mei Kill Hung hei gun?
Was Gee Shim married to Ng moi?

lots of dead ends

To be honest I dont really care...it wont change my life,it wont change anything..and I believe the real truth will never come out.
How far should we look back ? How much energy and time we should use on history..I mean its good to know our history but everything before LSW
is already blured..if its oral or written it still doesnt mean its true...
So before I make my head all dizzy I go back to train...and leave all that theoretical stuff to the historicans

LETS SEE WHAT WE ALL WOULD KNOW

There was ten shaolin hero's or kung fu brothers Hung hei kwun,Fong sai yuk,fong mei yuk, Fong hou yuk,Wu wai kong,Tung tsin gen,Chung mai luk,Li wai guk,tse ah fuk and Luk ah choi.
Now these ten after the burning of shaolin wanted to kill bak mei because they saw him as the traitor against shaolin,also they were for fan ching fook ming as they all became rebels against the government.
Even though they were few in numbers they split up to recruit anti ching people but still they were out numbered.
Well from history we know that they never overthrew the government and the ming never came back to power.
They also knew that killing Bak mei would lead to their own deaths as they were outnumbered so out of the ten one was told not to follow them for revenge but to teach and spread the art of hung to the world,and that was given to Luk ah choi to do as he was the youngest of them all and one of the smartest.Thats why we see Luk ah choi as the Jo-si of hung as he was the first to spread it on,even though Hung hei kwun developed the style he never had chance to pass it on.
Ok now back to Bak mei he would never have singlehanded killed hung hei kwun and the rest of the hero's he always had more people with him
Fung dou tak (his kung fu brother) Ko kam chun,general Dyn kwan and his right-hand man Yeung sum and a shit load of soldiers.
Think about it they had the backing of the govenrment and the ching emperor you think that afterwards they would allow them all to live and lead normal lives DONT THINK SO they would have hunted them down and killed them no-matter what, Hung hei kwun was the leader they would never have let him go,he would never have been allowed to live too an old age and teach somewhere in canton.
Also they knew they would all die but thats what made them HERO'S.
Now this is the basic story things inbetween would have could have been spiced up to make it more exciting but in the end the result would be the same UNLESS OF COURSE THE MING CAME BACK TO POWER AND EVERBODY LIVED HAPPY EVERAFTER HEHEHE BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

great and positive input ronnie.
i salute you.

and to frankylau: you're absolutely right and realistic. the outcome does not change our views and attitude.
keep on training.

You guys crack me up!

Jee Shim used his iron head to attack Bak Mei's iron belly and Bak Mei crushed his head and killed him!

Then Bak Mei kills Hung Hei Goon and Fong Wing Chun.

Their son Hung Mun Ding combined the Tiger form of his father and his mom's crane form and creates an undefeatable combination to kill the evil Bak Mei.

I have more of these stories.

Maybe after you get into your PJ's and finish your milk and cookies!

BTW, this is all fiction, and I believe from a Shaw Bros movie.

I remember a D.V.D interview with my kung fu uncle (and Lau Kar Leung disciple) Mark Houghton done at our kwoon in 2002 where he catagorically states that Hung si-jo killed Pak Mei but was blinded in the fight and died shortly afterwards,and that as Hung Mun Ding doesn't appear on any lineage chart he'd ever seen, he wasn't even sure the son actually existed