Application in 3 Moves: Wing Chun White Crane

October 31, 2011 Application, Fujian White Crane 4 Comments

Scan from my archives – “Slicing Palm vs. Heart Stealing Fist Strike” of Fujian Wing Chun White Crane (Wing Cheun Baak Hok Kyun).

Is there any connection of Wing Chun White Crane and today Cantonese Wing Chun? Wing Chun “Inside Join” (Noi Lim)? In Hung Gar Kuen (Hung Ga Kyun) we certainly have very similar technique, and old Hung Kuen is full of those.

So or so, please click to enlarge and download the scan!

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Old Southern Praying Mantis Video

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WingChunPedia makes some claims that seem worthy of research, for those who have the time, money, and ability to read the characters / converse with the locals of places such as Chan Wah Shun’s village of Shunde:

“It is also known that in Cheung Bo’s ancestoral tablet, “Founder of Weng Chun Bok Hok Kuen” (Wing Chun White Crane Fist). This is also the same for Chan Wah Shun’s decendents, who also have the “Founder of Weng Chun Bok Hok Kuen” as their core ancestor, as inscribed on the Families Ancestral tablet.

Cheung Bo passed down the tradition that Wing Chun Kuen, was derived from the Fukien Weng Chun County (Yong Chun, Fujian) White Crane Boxing system, which migrated to the Guangdong area, and was imported onto the Red Boats.

Both include wooden dummy training. Similarly, both systems make heavy use of the Tan Sau (palm up high block), Pak Sau (slap block), Gaung Sau (palm down low block), Kiu Sau (bridging hand), the vertical fist punch, and the straight thrust kick. Both systems emphasize techniques that block and punch at the same time (Lin Sil Dai Dar). Today, the Yong Chun White Crane kung fu system is still practiced in Fujian and as Weng Chun White Crane in Taiwan.

Further information released by the Ancestral Wing Chun Kuen Research Institute states that, more likely than not, there wasnt a seperate system called “Weng chun”. There was only one system. It is believed that the system that used the “Weng” character was Bok Hok Kuen from “Weng” Chun County, China. It is commonly believed that the evolved system of White Crane, that was fused with Snake Boxing, used the “Wing” character.”

It’s really hard to answer this question. The problem is also that for many people, the Weng Chun (Yong Quan) County, who gave the origin to the Weng Chun Bak Hok, has nothing to see with the art of Weng(Wing) Chun Kuen. Even do, for me there are too many similarities, I would say that there is a strong link, even if there is not historical evidence.
I think that in some specific area, exactly where Hakka people(Si Chuan and Fukien)lived, Siu Lam arts took the shape that they show in the modern styles like White Crane, Hung Kuen, Weng Chun.
In fact, even if there are difference in the way that these style express force, there are many common points in the external structure.
Probably the difference could be in a different interpretation of the same Siu Lam “pre”-Style, maybe because of different skills of the practitionners or also different limitations for each of them.
In fact, even today, the all people practicing Weng (Wing) Chun Kuen, seem to practice different things, althoug sharing the same principles. And so even when they follow the same Weng (Wing) Lineage.
It also happen, I think, in the modern Hung Kuen Kwoons.

If it happens today, More likely it happened in the ancient times, where maybe the language to describe and explaining actions was not analytic as today.